Buying Gold Silver Guide – Bars or Coins?

Many new stackers would ask, be it Gold or Silver,…

Do I stack in coins or do I stack in bars?

Coins

Funnel web spider silver coin 1 oz
Funnel web spider silver coin 1 oz

Coins generally are a favourite among collectors. They comes in different size, from 0.10, 0.25. 0.5, 1, 2 ounces for gold coins, and more common of 1, 2, 5 ounce for silver coins (silver has a wider range from 0.5 ounce to also 1kg or 10kg silver coin, but less commonly bought)

Coins are easy to stack, since you can stack a brunch of them in easily available tubes. And as we use coins in our everyday currency, coins gain legitimacy and recognition easily.

As most coins are in the common 1 oz size, it is also fairly standardised and easy to compare in value.

And there are many different designs and branding available on coins, such that certain coins’ design attracts a fatter premium. These wide range of designs available on coins allow collectors to diversify and beautify their collections, crossing their investment portfolio as an interesting hobby as well.

The biggest disadvantage of silver coins is that minted coins are prone to milkspots. These are white spots on silver bars or coins, even when you bought it fresh from the mint. Royal Canadian coins are notorious for milkspots on their coins, and generally, collectors have learnt to live with it. Do note that there are ways to remove milkspots, but most investors would not do that as it may reduce the value of the coin. Silver coins also may get “toning”, getting blackish and brown over the years due to discolouration from the oxidation.

Coins also have a bit more premium than bars. Generally you are paying for the melt-value of the metal (the spot price of the precious metals) and the brand / design of the coin. In this aspect, coins has a bit more premium that you have to pay for compared to bars.

On another note, precious metals in round shaped are only classified as “coins” if they are minted by public / government mints and declared as “legal tender”. If they are minted by private mint, they do not have legal tender, and the more correct name for them is “rounds”.

Bars

 

PAMP Suisse 100g Minted Gold Bar
PAMP Suisse 100g Minted Gold Bar

Gold bars and silver bars are common for investors to buy and stack, as they are easy to stack especially in larger volumes. The bars can come in as small as 5g or 1g for gold, and more commonly in larger sizes for stackers, such as 100g bars or 1 kilo bars for gold, or 100 oz, 1 kilo, 5 kilo etc for silver bars.

Silver bars of any size are an excellent way to invest in pure Silver while avoiding the premiums usually found on legal tender bullion coins. They are easily bought and sold, stored, stacked and counted..

Minted bars may still face milkspots, though cast bars are generally more robust and less likely to have milkspot problems. Cast bars also provide a more industrial and raw feel and appeals to some collectors.

Bars has less designs compared to coins, and heavier bars are harder to liquidate due to the weight and large monetary value.

In summary

Coins- Pros

More similar to day-to-day currencies, more standardised.
Many designs available.

Coins- Cons

More premiums payable
Some coins are more prone to milkspots

Bars- Pros

Less premiums, and more large size available for stacking

Bars- Cons

Less designs. Larger bars slightly more difficult to liquidate.

Gold Silver City has categorised gold and silver into bars and coins for easier viewing. Check out Gold Bars or Gold Coins and of course, Silver Bars and Silver coins for different sorting. Hope that helps with your viewing pleasure!

Gold Silver Charting TA 23 Aug 2015

Gold and Silver

Gold
DT
Gold break out of inside day and Diff on Wed, closed off above 1,155 resistance and TL2.  If Gold can hold above 1,155 and TL3 for next few days, it may test 1,224
Potential Resistance  1,224 and 1,293
Potential Support 1,155, 1,072 and 995

Silver
DT
Silver formed a Doji on weekly chart, resisted by TL2.  Outside day is formed on daily and weekly chart, potential of a new trend
Potential Resistance 15.60, 16.68 and 17.55
Potential Support 14.38, 14.22 and 12.70

Sourced with permission from Cillin
http://cillinsg.blogspot.sg/2015/08/gold-and-silver_23.html

Buying Gold Silver Guide – Gold or Silver?

Buying Gold Silver Guide – Gold or Silver?

For all new stackers who wish to start saving their hard earned money in physical metal, the first question usually arise would be:-

Which precious metal?

Well, firstly  precious metal is a rare, naturally occurring metal of high economical value. We have used precious metals previous as currency, such as coins and taels. With the creation of modern fiat currency, precious metals are now widely regarded mainly as investment and industrial commodities.

Gold Silver coins

The best-known precious metals are  gold and silver. There are other precious metals such as ruthenium, rhodium, palladium, osmium, iridium and of course, platinum. However, these rare precious metals are rarely traded and less liquid as the 2 most common precious metals known to us – Gold and Silver.

Let us focus on Gold and Silver, which are the popular precious metal in Singapore.

Gold –

Currently as of 16 August 2015, the spot price of gold is SGD $1567.53 per troy ounce (or USD $1114.30)

Valcambi Suisse Minted Gold Bar
Valcambi Suisse Minted Gold Bar

Gold is the most recognised, most liquid precious metal. Not only is it easier to buy, it is easier to liquidate for cash too. Gold is a popular jewellery, but for investment, we would only deal with investment grade gold, in the form of bullion bars or coins. You can buy pure gold coin or bars from bank, such as UOB head branch, or jewellery stores. These are usually a lot more convenient, almost any jewellery stores would have gold bars of different sizes for sales.  Unfortunately, most of these gold bars and coins are sold at a high mark up. The high mark up is mostly because of the high rental costs and branding of the bank or jewellery stores.

You can also visit shops that specialise in bullion gold / silver, the markups are low as they specialise in bullion products and generally has less recognition power compared to UOB or big brand jewellery name like Poh Heng Jewellery. A quick search would reveal many bullion shop such as Gold Silver City in Singapore or Gold Silver Singapore.

Most importantly, the reason why Gold is the top choice of many investors is because it is so recognised in value and easy to liquidate. You can sell gold easily, without too much loss in value. Most banks and jewellery franchise buyback, though they cut a commission for themselves. You can sell to bullion shops,  majority of them buybacks. You can visit any pawnshops in your neighbourhood and you can get cold hard cash easily. If you bother to use forums, eBay, carousells or other avenues, you can even get a slightly better price. It is that easy to convert your investment into cash.

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The biggest disadvantage of gold is that it is so costly, and it may be difficult for cost averaging when one small gold coin of 1 ounce costs $1600. Thankfully there are gold bars and coins that are smaller. For investment, gold is a bit more demanding on the pocket.

 

Silver

Currently as of 16 August 2015, the spot price of silver is SGD $21.52 per troy ounce (or USD $15.30)

stacking silver

As you can see, the biggest advantage of stacking silver is that it is light on the pocket. One ounce of silver costs you only a meal at a causal restaurant in Singapore. That is also why Robert Kiyosaki of Best Selling Book  “Rich Dad, Poor Dad” strongly allocates buying silver, even for workers who are struggling to meet the challenges of rising costs of living. One can afford to stash away a few coins or bars monthly to save up for the future, rather than splurging on movies or costly meals.

Another advantage is that many silver investors find silver to be a higher potential in risk-reward ratio than gold. As the price of silver is so low currently, the chances of it doubling or tripling is a lot more likely than gold. ($1600 SGD double to $3200 SGD is a lot harder than doubling from $22 SGD to $44 or $66) Also there is a good chance the gold silver price ratio may move towards more silver. There are increasing industrial demand for usage of silver in our smartphones, solar panels etc.  Hence, there is a lot more speculative return potential on silver.

The biggest drawback of silver is that it is harder to buy or sell. Most jewellery stores do not sell silver, neither do banks. Bullion shops that specialise in precious metals would definitely sell silver coins or bars for investors. In Singapore there are many bullion shop such as Gold Silver City in Singapore or Gold Silver Singapore. It would be difficult to buy silver from convenient locations such as jewellery stores or banks.

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If you like to sell your silver for cash, it is definitely more challenging than selling gold. Banks, jewellery stores and most pawn shops do not buy silver, so your only choice is via bullion shops that buy back. You may also sell them via forums and ebay. Thankfully silver is starting to get more recognised, and there are some pawnshops that are beginning to buy and sell silver. Silver would definitely get more traction.

In summary here are simplified pros and cons of gold and silver.

Gold- Pros:

More recognised. Easy to buy and sell.

Gold- Cons:

Higher dollar investment per ounce

Silver- Pros:

Lower dollar investment per ounce
Higher potential risk-reward ratios

Silver -Cons:

Less liquid- less locations to sell off.